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Truth, Consequences, and Opinion TQO# 97

2010-10-0


TQO#97 Obama: How to get out of Afghanistan or win the war


I will grant Obama this, President Bush #43 left Obama two wars when he should not have. The only other time a living President has passed off a major war to another President is Vietnam.


The Bible tells us God would give us children for leaders, he certainly has.


Further comparing Vietnam to Afghanistan.


Point one


Vietnam was lost once Nixon did this, he borrowed money from other nations in violation of Deut 28:12 to fund it.


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Deuteronomy 28


Blessings for Obedience

12 The LORD will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none.


Curses for Disobedience

20 The LORD will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him


25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies.


28 The LORD will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind.


29 At midday you will grope about like a blind man in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you

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As promised, we became the tail, not the head. Nixon killed the gold standard in 1971 so he could borrow more money from other nations to fund the war. It was not enough for America to borrow from its own citizens anymore.


Did I mention Nixon was evil? Thankfully, at that same time we were blessed with Nancy Pelosi working her corruption way back when, before Obama or myself were even teens.


Point two


The Vietnam war was lost in part because the native population was not committed to their freedom and cause. An example would be the the CIDG. The Civilian Irregular Defense Group.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Irregular_Defense_Group


Basically this was a group of civilians turned soldiers that were not willing to die in battle for their country because they had no faith in their corrupt government. Does this sound anything like Afghanistan? You bet. The CIDG would not go into battles without the Americans, many times would not even rescue their stranded countrymen in battle. Many times they would surrender to the North Vietnamese and then be executed shortly there after, while our wounded soldiers would fight to the death, until rescued, or until they rescued their comrades.


If you need an example, look at the Battle of Lang Vei (not on wiki - I am using real paper books), after the CIDG surrendered, what our soldiers replied when asked if they were out of ammo "I've got plenty for you".


Solution - three parts


Obama, if your spirit will allow it, I have a solution. Here are three things common in most wars and with all our presidents that have led us to war.


1) They never put it to vote with the soldiers that have to die fighting the war.


2) They never put it to vote with the civilian population that has to pay for it.


3) They never ask the country by their popular vote, before we put soldiers in.


Solution Part 1


Put it to vote for the soldiers based in Afghanistan on these two questions.


Q1) Do you think we can win the war in Afghanistan.

Q2) Do you want to stay and fight in Afghanistan.


If you get a 3/5 majority on both questions, go to step 2. Otherwise pull out.


Solution Part 2


Put it to vote for the civilian population.


"We have violated Deut 28:12 by borrowing from other nations to fund the Afghanistan war. It can not continue. If we are to continue the war, it has to be completely funded without borrowing."


You have wanted to raise the price of gasoline before you were even in office to discourage consumption and to promote your false green agenda. This is a way to do it honestly.


We tax gasoline a min. of $0.20 a gallon with the payment to go directly to the Afghan war and nothing else. Any left over goes to paying off the money we borrowed to fund it under President Bush #43. Plus, all those companies making a killing on drone attacks and missiles can make even more, without borrowing from China.


If you get a 3/5 majority, go to step 3. Otherwise pull out.


Solution Part 3


Put it to vote for the civilian population of the country we are occupying, Afghanistan.


You ask them this.


"We acknowledge that no country that has ever invaded your country has prevailed. We look at it as an act of God and we do not seek to be your rulers. We want bin Laden dead and the Taliban gone. You want to be a Muslim country, fine with us Christians. You are our in-laws through the seed line of Abraham, we seek no harm.


We promise to help you install a voting system, constitution, and governmental framework of your choosing. We will kill the Taliban and other terrorists where ever found. Some of your own civilian population will die in the process, this is war, we promise to avoid it when possible.


We will secure your borders. We will build wells and septic systems in your towns. We will help you start a public education system. We will build infrastructures including roads and "green" independent electrical systems for remote areas. Most importantly, we will start and put into place a mining system for those trillions of dollars of minerals we announced to the world, so your civilian population reaps the benefits directly, not outside influences or a corrupt few.


We know part of being friends is proving it with deeds.


So, we will arm all adults age 21 and older with shotguns and 9 mm handguns. These are not of any real use against our forces with body armor at long ranges of 100+ meters, though they will keep people out of your villages at night when we are not there. We will supply free ammo for target practice, you return empty shells/hulls or brass, you get more shells or brass. Anyone caught selling these on the black market we kill. Anyone importing spent cartridges to defraud us, we kill. Anyone that qualifies as a shooter will get a $50 bonus in dollars or gold. $75 for every woman with a child that passes. It is up to you to protect your remote towns and children, not us. After we clear a town for you, if it is retaken, we wipe it out by air. Don't be around when that happens.


You are poor people, you are going to grow drug crops in remote areas no matter what we do. We will ignore it, though we ask you please do not. We are asking, not telling. Try growing something you can eat or honestly sell. Drug use is frowned upon both in the Bible and Koran, you can't say you are doing God's will or Allah's by being part of illegal drug use.


If your country harbors terrorists who in turn attack us, the next time we come in, it will be outright total war and we will take everything we can, and we will not rebuild your country, like we do every place else, after we level it.


Q1) Do you want us to stay or not?


If not, we will pull out completely by 2011. Otherwise we commit to rebuilding your country through taxes on our own citizens, until 2015."


If you get a 3/5 majority, go to the next step. Otherwise pull out before the end of 2011.


Next Step


We pray to God as a nation and acknowledge our sins and borrowing against his word to fund the war originally. We pray for success for doing it his way and to free a nation of evil, by democratic vote in both countries.


Lower the standards for joining the Army. Anyone 65 or younger that can pass the Army's female physical requirements can join. The point is to give you a 500,000 all volunteer army to use in Afghanistan.


You give the fighting of this war ONLY to Christian generals and leaders that have seen combat, that have killed people, and/or have had their fellow soldiers next to them killed in combat. If they have served in specials forces, such as Rangers or Seals, or were Marine snipers that have seen combat, even better. Christian and seen combat are the two qualifications.


This war will be waged by Christian warriors and generals, not arm chair admirals and politicians, that have actually drawn blood or suffered. I rather have a Christian, crippled Marine private in a wheelchair with no legs to decide my fate then Joe Liberalman. You turn it over to them and walk away and leave it in their capable hands and resist the urge to screw it up, like most presidents do.


We don't dump this war just on the young, naive, or poor, everyone in America shares, young and old, rich and poor.


Obama, you can be like every other president, and that is not a good thing, and fail in Afghanistan. Or you can take a chance on being successful and offer real change.


You don't have to worry about losing your liberal base, because you can't be blamed if 3/5 of the people approved 3 out of 3 times. You can't be blamed for pulling out if the vote fails any where along the way, especially with the people that have to die fighting the war. No one can accuse your course of being non-Christian if you do it according to the Bible and popular 3/5 vote.


No matter what infamy you pile up or how you succeed or fail, you will be the first elected American official that actually put a war and/or occupation to vote, now that would be change I could believe in.


If at any of the three steps, you get less then 3/5 of a vote, you have every reason without blame for pulling out.

Personally, I don't even know how I would vote, though if the soldiers were overwhelming for it, then I would go along, and volunteer myself.


I want bin Laden dead and an outright 100% crushing win over the enemy or I want us the hell out of there yesterday. A 1/2 hearted stalemate isn't worth our young people dying and getting crippled, because God has cursed us with blindness.



I have tried to give you a win-win situation, please consider it.






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A white slave owner could feed his black man well, send his slave out hunting with a rifle, and to the local store while he kept his family hostage, and kept him ignorant about the word of God and how to read.


Then when the slave still tried to escape, the slave owner beat him and said "Look at all I have given you, you ungrateful heathen".


To be a free citizen

Frederick Douglass had white Christian brothers that bought his freedom for

a one time fee of $710.96.


Under SOCIALIST Obama Care, us white and black slaves to the government have to buy our freedom every month, under the IRS's tyrannical thumb or be jailed.


Well, I am going to do the same thing Frederick Douglass did to free his black brothers in the bondage of slavery.

Teach people the Bible

and how to read it.


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