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Talking
Points # 68
2010-06-19e ►
TP#68 Why we should get
out of Iraq and Afghanistan - yesterday Why
we should get out of Iraq and Afghanistan - yesterday - something
for people that believe in God and the Constitution should think
about. Now, in a
previous article, literally years ago, I showed why we were actually
in Iraq, it is Biblical. Why
we are in Iraq (click here) Unfortunately,
for the USA, we no longer have leaders that actually believe in the
Bible AND comprehend the Bible's teachings. Think about
this. The USA in World War II won the war, basically for the world,
in four years. We are now stuck in Afghanistan for ten years and it
has turned into another Vietnam, albeit, on a lesser scale of blood
shed, but, at a much greater drain on our economy. In a country
smaller then many of our states, why? The current
Arab bad guys, take your pick of which ever group, compared to the
WWII Japanese are nothing. Almost every Japanese man serving in
their armed forces was entirely willing and capable of dying on the
job, even if retreat was offered, never mind surrender. They would
basically stand their ground or when out of ammo simple use a
bayonet charge. Or commit suicide. Being captured alive was not an
option, it was a disgrace.
I have watched
films of the Japanese Army soldiers throwing babies up in the air
and laughing as they ended up coming down SPLAT on an extended rifle
bayonet. The Japanese totally brutalized the Chinese and Koreans.
They killed and raped 200,000+ people in one Chinese city alone. No
one, even the German SS / Nazi had anything on the Japanese. Yet, our
Marines still defeated them. So, why can't our Marines today, defeat
an enemy in Afghanistan not armed that much better then the Japanese
in WW II? Unlike the Japanese they have no air force, no navy, no
suicide air planes, no suicide rockets, yet, we are still mired down
in a country for ten years fighting a war that has produced few
fruits. As an example,
when we supported the Mujahideen ======================================= "al-Qaeda
and Bin Laden were "a product of a monumental miscalculation by
western security agencies", and that "Al-Qaida, literally
"the database", was originally the computer file of the
thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help
from the CIA to defeat the Russians" (note to self:
making friends and supplying arms to godless men like Bin Laden and
Saddam did not work out too well)
======================================= against the
Soviets, we KNEW they were killing Soviet soldiers with bolt action
WWII rifles capable of killing people out to greater distances then
the Soviets AK-47s could return accurate return fire. So, what do we
do with our soldiers sent to fight the exact same people? Send them
into battle with the 5.56 which is great for house to house. But,
unfortunately the only way they can return effective fire against
WWII bolt action rifles at 600-1000 yards out is call in air support
or hope you have someone in the platoon with the heavier .308 or .50
weapons. The only reason they do not suffer the fate of the Soviets
many times is much better body armor, especially the helmets. Though
now supposedly Al-Qaida is using armor piercing rounds in all their
rifles, so expect it to get worse. Then we tie
our soldiers' hands with insane rules of engagement for political
reasons. Such as engaging the enemy, when they run out of ammo or
the battle gets too hot they drop their weapons and walk out the
building and literally thumb their noses at our soldiers because
they can't be fired upon. Even our FBI can fire through walls at an
unseen combatant, but, our soldiers in Afghanistan can not. We have
to directly see them holding the weapon as they fire upon our
soldiers. Even our CIA
has to suffer with the likes of Nancy Pelosi that accuses the CIA of
lying to her, to provide political cover for her sorry behind. Or
the CIA has to worry about being brought up on charges when they
were told to simply get the job done. For some
reason, I have noticed all these people that make these insane rules
and criticize the CIA have never served in the military at all. Yet,
we have those wonderfully brave people like Joe LIBERAL-MAN that
think it is a good idea to start a war with Iran and bomb them, when
they have never directly attacked us: What
would George Washington do about Iran? (click here) It seems kind
of unseemly these people that write these rules of engagement or
call for war, have never shed blood or have had their own sons and
daughters killed in war.
It is kind of
like ... socialists. It is always fine when it is other people's
money, but, never touch their own money or children. This is
Vietnam II
It is war, you
either unleash the troops to wage unrelenting, vicious, total war,
take it to the enemy, and get it over as quickly as possible with
the idea of minimizing OUR troop causalities and support them
all, including the CIA, 100%, or get out. Instead of being, as I
heard an ex-military guy on Fox News, "IED magnets". For some
reason our leaders have ignored HISTORY that has shown us anyone
that has invaded that country has left with their tails between
their legs. Except now, we have Iran doing to us, what we did to the
Soviets. I have tried to trace the origins of the Afghans and where
Lot traveled in the Bible, which was that direction. I bet if we did
DNA tests (like they have to most of the Arab world) we would find
they are from the "strong arm of Lot" and are from
Abraham's father's line.
Yes, maybe
Satan does not want us there, but, has anyone actually considered
God doesn't want anyone there, other then them, and that is why
everyone leaves defeated? Because God has given that country to them
to use as they see fit, to choose God as they see fit? Why is this
such as tough question to ask? When I first
heard of the 1-3 trillion dollars worth of minerals found in
Afghanistan, I thought maybe that is why everyone has been kicked
out over the years, because that resource is meant for those people
and we were meant to help them recover it. Afghanistan
gears up for vast iron ore deposits (click here) Then I thought
of "blood diamonds".
Now that
Al-Qaeda and Afghan's own Taliban see that $trillion$ carrot dangled
in front of them, do you honestly think they are going to leave and
go in peace? No, all we have done is given them even more reason to
stay for graft and corruption to fund their operations. Or worse,
we are now setting up the USA to be in the country another ten
years, to "protect" the country while they develop their
resources and infrastructure.
Our founding
fathers warned us about avoiding European wars and imperialism that
do nothing other then drain the nations coffers, yet we go right
ahead with it anyways. Nixon killed
the gold standard, so he could borrow more money to dump into
Vietnam and raise our debt and borrowing. In Vietnam we were coupled
with a corrupt government that their citizens were not willing to
defend or for which to die. Now we are
mired down doing nation building again, borrowing more money from
China and Japan, in Afghanistan. A tribal country where no one has
succeeded in taming them, with a corrupt government that their
citizens are not willing to defend or for which to die.
How can we
keep repeating the same mistakes? Because when we get involved with
these countries and their civil wars we forget the Bible. ======================================= Proverbs 26
(King James Version) 17He that
passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him,
is like one
that taketh a dog by the ears 17 Like one
who seizes a dog by the ears is a passer-by
who meddles in a quarrel not his own. ======================================= Worse, we
might soon turn Afghanistan into a country of "blood
minerals" and give Al-Qaeda and the Taliban a chance to
earn even more graft and corruption, if we ever leave. IRAQ I did a small
article four months ago, What
our soldiers face in Iraq (click here) Has anything
changed? Iraqi
Interpreter Murdered by Family for Refusing to Quit Job (click here) Why are our
leaders so blind? The Bible
directly tells us not to get involved with the Arabs.
Yet ... still
we do. We invite them
into our country as citizens, we let them cross uncontested over the
Mexican border (last raid by ICE in Georgia results in the capture
of people from 60 nations!). Then
completely under Obama's watch (unfortunately left wing nuts - Bush
can't be blamed for this too), we give Arabs military security
passes, 17 go AWOL over an 18 month period and disappear into the
USA. Yet, no one can ask the question "What kind of security
network exists within our own borders for this to happen". I
mean, they do not speak English well, do not have a job, so where do
they eat and sleep and where do they get the money? Afghan
Deserters AWOL From Texas Base (click here) All of this
could have been avoided by reading the New Testament. I usually like
using the King James, this is easier to read: ======================================= Galatians
4 - Biblegateway.com Galatians 4
(New International Version) Hagar and
Sarah 21Tell me, you
who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law
says? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the
slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23His son by the slave
woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman
was born as the result of a promise. 24These things
may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants.
One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be
slaves: This is Hagar. 25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia
and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in
slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem that is above is
free, and she is our mother.
27For it is
written: "Be glad,
O barren woman, who bears no
children; break forth
and cry aloud, you who have
no labor pains; because more
are the children of the desolate woman than of her
who has a husband."[b] 28Now you,
brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29At that time the
son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of
the Spirit. It is the same now. 30But what does the Scripture say?
"Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's
son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son."
31Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but
of the free woman. ======================================= The Arabs hate
and persecute us still today. I mean, isn't it obvious with 9/11 ?
Yet, we still buy their oil and by Obama shutting down drilling in
the gulf, we will buy even more Arab oil to benefit SABIC still. We were
founded by white Protestants, who owe their religious heritage to
Martin Luther and the book of Galatians was one of his favorite
books. YET we ignore the clear warning in his favorite book, about
the Arabs. Yes, we
basically created the nation of Israel and as I have showed, even
the number of it's creation 1948 can be tied back to Abraham and the
1st founding of Israel, 1948 years after him. We are in the era of
the second fig tree that bears bad fruit. But, that does
not mean we have to go and grab a mad dog Arab by the ears and get
involved with their civil wars in countries we do not belong. We are
trying to mix oil with water (not turning out too WELL for Obama
with that either), they will always have a conflict with us. The Arabs are
waiting for the 1st return of their messiah, which will end up being
our anti-Christ. They will end up in slavery to him and paying him
obedience. We are not
even getting free oil or minerals from these countries. All we are
doing is peeing away our grand children's future and setting this
nation up for un-payable debt so it falls into the one world system
of government and the forgiveness of debt by Satan. These two wars
cost roughly 400+ billion dollars a year, funded by selling our
future to China, Japan, Germany, and Russia. The only winners are
the military complex. Of course if our esteemed leaders had bothered
to read about the Condor Legion (Ballatine Books) as I recommended
earlier, with the Soviets on one side of the Spanish Civil War and
Nazi Germany on the other, they would know being involved with civil
wars tend to drive only the military complex with the replacement of
used weapons tested in battle. To the detriment of the real losers,
the local civilian population. FWIW: It is where the bombing of
civilian market places full of people was introduced. Now we have
people that think using spy drones deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan
on USA soil is a good thing. Like this wasn't too hard to predict by
history. There is an
old Eddie Murphy album (20+ years old - before he got so potty
mouthed) where he describes the difference between a black man and a
white man. The white man moves into a haunted house, hears the "GET
OUT" and decides to stay and declares it beautiful. The black
man moves into the same haunted house, hears "GET OUT",
and immediately turns to his wife and says "honey, it's time to
move". Well, honey,
it is time to move. It is time to
get out of Afghanistan and Iraq yesterday, brings our troops home
from Korea, and to kick the corrupt and evil Untied Nations off our
shores and have them take Interpol (which Obama freed from all our
laws with executive order) with them. We have
violated Deut 28:12 by borrowing from other nations and we
are cursed by killing babies and ignoring when the spirit is placed
in the body (Luke 1:36-55), which has been genocide for the
black race and resulted in the shedding of innocent blood of 40+
million souls, within our borders. It is time to
get our soldiers home, to protect their own families, us, and
the borders, before something much worse happens. 2012 is the 40th
year or Roe vs. Wade, you can't see and feel the evil coming upon
us? Familycides
(whole family killed by a family member with the last one committing
suicide) use to happen 5-6 times a year, since Obama has been in
office, they happen weekly or more. I gave up tracking them. If you think
our corrupt anti-Christian leaders, including Obama, are worthy of
having our soldiers lives in their hands and will make the proper
decisions based on morals instead of politics and money in a crisis,
you are the one that is insane, not me! I want all our
soldiers home by 2012 from everywhere. Not because of some supposed
prophet that had a bad dream like Nostradamus, or Mayan calendars,
or bad movies. I want them home for these basic reasons. 1) Our country
was not founded to be an imperial nation, our founding fathers
directly warned against it. 2) We can't
afford it in terms of money and blood. 3) I know by
the Bible there will be a price to pay for abortion. 4) I know by
the Bible there will be a price to pay for borrowing from other
nations. I want USA
troops safe(r) on USA soil and for them to protect their families
and us. It is a prudent moral and financial move based on the Bible,
Constitution, and teachings of the founding fathers. John Brown ►
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Proverbs
26 (New International Version)
"There
are two ways
to
conquer
and
enslave a nation.
One
is by the sword.
The
other is by debt" President
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Under
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