"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people

who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment

as a way to explain their frustrations."

-- Barack Obama, April 2, 2008

Talking Points #35 - 2010-04-18

Bill Clinton - he is part of the reason to demonize government

If you count being impeached or resigning as a standard of being the worse of the presidents, then Bill Clinton is one of the three worse. Nixon resigned, Clinton was impeached for obstruction of justice and later acquitted, and Andrew Jackson came close to being impeached.

Clinton was the only President disbarred for lying under oath.

The truth

Let us look at the events of what led to the Oklahoma City bombing.

On Bush #41's watch - he probably did not know about the following until after the events transpired

Ruby Ridge - wiki link

"In June 1990, ATF agents attempted to have Weaver act as an informant for their investigation into the Aryan Nations organization. When Weaver refused, the ATF filed charges in June 1990 accusing Weaver of being a bank robber with criminal convictions (the ATF claims were false: at that time Weaver did not even have traffic tickets and was never a suspect in bank robber)."

"Weaver was ultimately acquitted of all charges except missing his original court date and violating his bail conditions, for which he was sentenced to 18 months and fined $10,000. Credited with time served, Weaver spent an additional 4 months in prison. Harris was acquitted of all charges."


The Feds accused an innocent man of a crime they knew he did not commit and tried to force him to be a snitch on a man that did him no harm. They retaliated by trying to kill and silence him and killed an unarmed woman with a head shot while holding her ten month old baby.

Does this sound like a government that should be demonized?

On Clinton's watch with his approval this murder of innocent civilians happened

David Koresh and Waxo Texas -wiki

I have no doubt Koresh deserved to be in jail for the rest of his life, he claimed to be a prophet while he sexually assaulted children. In my world he would be executed for that. What enraged most people that you will not find in that link is they used tanks against American citizens. That the Feds started the fire and executed people running from the flames....

"54 adults and 21 children were found dead after the fire."

That is when people such as me, that never owned a gun, started to think people were right, the ATF should be abolished and citizens should be able to own any weapon they wanted including anti-tank guns and missiles to "repel threats both foreign and domestic."

Does this sound like a government that should be demonized?

Here is another thing that happened on Clinton's watch with his approval.

Richard Jewell - wiki link

This guy was a hero and the FBI leaked information about this HERO and made him out to be a loser living with his mother, they released lists of video tapes to make him seem like a wacko and the lame stream media such as NBC said "look at what he was watching. ". It was like, what are you talking about? I along with tens of millions of other Americans had seen those same PG movies in theaters or owned them ourselves.

As it turns out, the far left wacko Una-bomber had a far right wing double, Eric Rudolph, who was responsible for the bombing, which the HERO Richard Jewell prevented from being a disaster. The FBI responded by trying to destroy him by leaking details to the media and trying him in the court of public opinion.

Please note that God said to send all 1st degree murders to him for judgment starting as early as Genesis 9. Eric Rudolph commits 1st degree murder with a bomb, injuries dozens of people and he is still alive.

Does this sound like a government that should be demonized?

What do you think God thinks about seeing this happen?


Genesis 9(King James Version)

5And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

6Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

7And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.


I would like to mention briefly Bill Clinton was the one that originally let Bin Laden get away and he did not have much success bombing aspirin factories.

Why did the Oklahoma City Bombing happen?

OKC Bombing - wiki link

"Motivated by his hatred of the federal government and angered by what he perceived as its mishandling of the Waco Siege (1993) and the Ruby Ridge incident (1992), McVeigh timed his attack to coincide with the second anniversary of the deaths at Waco."

So, we can blame Clinton directly for being the candle that lit the wick, but, I not do think it is as simple as that. The reasons follow.

I know the idea of blowing up an IRS building was shipped around to more then one angry young man, but, McVeigh was probably the one that did not ask "what about the women and children" before committing his act of terror when the idea was put into his head.

"The Oklahoma blast claimed 168 lives, including 19 children under the age of 6, and injured more than 680 people."

For weeks after this happened I could barely eat, I threw up in my mouth every time I thought about it. It was beyond me why someone would intentionally blow up a daycare in their own country.

Just like it was beyond me why Clinton authorized the use of TANKS AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS and set their building on fire when they were surrounded, stuck in the middle of no where, and women and children were involved.

How could God let this happen?

Well, from reading the Bible I have seen this. If God protects you, Satan is not allowed to touch even a hair on your hair without permission. When God decides to remove that protection God can set limits on the destruction Satan can wield. This is part of what the Book of Job teaches you.

God gives free will, but, God also knows the future and how you will use that free will, and God steps into the lives of his elected to put them where he wants them. God will use bad men to punish a country that disobeys him.

Israel did not kill and wipe out the Kenites like they were told to. Instead they married the Kenites in direct contradiction to God's clear instructions. Worse then that, they used them as scribes (lawyers). So, they were used as a tool to test the tribe of Israel and they killed Jesus and other righteous men just as Cain killed righteous Abel. So it is, even today.

No one runs a country without the approval of God, even the most evil of men. Sometimes they get into power because that is what you deserve. God owns the earth, he owns the bodies created from the earth, and he owns the souls that inhabit the clay bodies.

God has slain the tribe of Israel while his angel was in their midst because of the evil things they did or allowed others to do.

God has slain the tribe of Israel when one of it's leaders has sinned, such as David commanding a census, even though his own commander objected.

God has slain the tribe of Israel for spilling innocent blood within its borders.

The USA was founded by the remnants of the tribe of Israel and Judah.

What do you think God thinks about seeing this happen?

JFK committing adultery while president.

What do you think God thinks about seeing this happen?

The "Reverend" MLK Jr. committing adultery while preaching peace.

What do you think God thinks about seeing this happen?

Bill Clinton committing adultery before he was elected and once elected doing nasty things with a cigar to Monica at a desk where President Reagan always wore a suit coat out of respect for the office.

God had to divorce himself from the adulteress Israel.

Do you think God was unjust letting JFK and MLK die for adultery? Do you think God was unjust letting OKC happen when you have a nasty liar of a president YOU elected doing such things, when you were clearly warned about this from a Christian, Ross Perot, in 1992.

"We've allowed ourselves to be lulled into

thinking that the bills would never come due.

We've been led to believe we could keep on

borrowing our children's money

to finance a lifestyle

we haven't earned and can't afford.

It can't go on."

What do you think God thinks about seeing this happen? When he warns you against it in Deuteronomy 28:12 "thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow."

So, when Bill Clinton says this:

"We shouldn't demonize the government or its public employees or its elected officials," or Clinton says "We can disagree with them, we can harshly criticize them. But when we turn them into an object of demonization, we increase the number of threats."

He is being the same lying manipulator (which I believed when he first swore with puppy dog eyes that he didn't have sex with that woman) doing the work of demons as he always has. He was responsible for the OKC bombing through his own personal actions and his own government actions.

President Clinton might as well as have given birth

to Timothy McVeigh right from between his own two legs.

You were responsible for electing him!

So, when you have elected officials not acting in a Godly manner, you should demonize them and rebuke them, using God's Bible, our God inspired founding fathers, and our God given Constitution!


Many things promised in the Bible are based on IFs related to your own actions.

If God punished the USA for it's slavery, as Lincoln said would be done "until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk".

If this involved a small amount of slaves in comparison to the following.

40,000,000 to 60,000,000 million babies have been killed in the womb in the USA.

If this means the 1st degree murder shedding of innocent blood within our borders.

What do you think God thinks about seeing this happen?

Worse, IF with the UN which we host here, even more have been exterminated though out the world with the UN "population control" programs.

What do you think God thinks about seeing this happen?

The question is IF you are a Tea Party member and you have finally gotten IT, what are you going to do with IT?

How about start testing?

How about starting with Obama ?

Just ask Obama one of the following three questions IF he is in a news conference taking questions.

Really, this is a better test then going off about his birth certificate...


1 Corinthians 12(King James Version)

3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.


Ask your elected leaders (and the people around you) to say

"Jesus is Lord".


1 John 4 (King James Version)

1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


Ask your elected leaders (and the people around you) to say

"Jesus came in the flesh".


1 Corinthians 13

4Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.


13And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.


Ask your elected leaders (and the people around you) to say

"I love you God and I love you Jesus".

Because it is through long suffering, loving kindness, mercy and

charity beyond all human comprehension

that God has not wiped us all off the face of the earth.

We do not deserve the blessings we receive.

You can at least tell him you love him.

Do these three things to cause evil to flee from around you at Tea Parties and meetings. Cause evil to flee your own mind.

Welcome to the party, pal!

I knew the truth and recognized it when I was a heathen and atheist (agnostic - is there a difference?) 20 years ago and started to listen to people such as Ross Perot, you really have no excuse when you were raised a Christian. Even still, I am giving up the worldly possessions I love out of faith, hope, and charity.

Faith that the vast majority of the people in the USA still want to love God and follow in his way.

Hope that if we repent as a nation, God will lessen the punishment as the earth's labor pains grow closer and closer together, as she brings forth the anti-Christ.

Charity in that I can't not look at the children coming of my children's schools and not want to save them too. It breaks my heart to know they will fall through ignorance to the anti-Christ.

I am a computer expert, I know how to use a logic probe, I know enough about electronics, relays, metal working, composites, and chemicals to put the Unabomber, Rudolph, and McVeigh to shame.

But, I asked "what about the woman and children" and instead did this "thinketh no evil;"

"6Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;"

I said yes to keep spreading the truth and remembering the truth for 20 years while

"7Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things."

I am a sinner.

It would have been easy to blow things up and try to change things my way. I have always had a zealous streak. It would have been very easy to go to Ted Kennedy's funeral and spit on his coffin like he deserved to be remembered, because I disliked what he did to the USA.

No, I am not going to go to funerals and protest with hateful signs or actions. Or go to homosexual pride parades and become a public nuisance and grind my theology into someone's face while they exercise their 1st amendment rights. Even though they might be doing it to me.

Instead, I have chosen to remember how ignorant I was and how much worse of a sinner then most I was. How God showed mercy on me because a pastor basically said I was beyond hope inside a church. How God showered me with hope when I decided to read his Bible even though I didn't believe in it.

I have chosen to remember the miracles I didn't deserve given through CHARITY, to remember the messengers sent that I did not deserve, and to remember the evil spirits I have met including the "Prince of Darkness", as he called himself, that I rebuked with the name of Jehovah. To remember God has all the power and nothing is accomplished unless it pleases him or he approves it. That we were created for his pleasure.

The God that counts every hair on your head, knows every sin you commit, every act of adultery a reverend or president commits while in office, every violation of his law, and every drop of innocent blood and murder committed within the borders of a nation.

The thing to remember

So, when Obama or Clinton try to blame the OKC bombing on so called "anti-government" rhetoric, know that God saw everything Clinton did. God does not have to do anything to destroy you, he just has to move his little pinkie of protection and Satan will rip you to shreds and laugh the whole time doing it.

So, by all means, when a public official violates the Bible or Constitution, by all means demonize them and point out how ungodly they are, by using the Bible and Constitution.

Just make sure you use the truth and get the context and quotes right so you do not end up on the wrong side of paradise with the rich man. Make sure you end up on the right side with Lazarus, Abraham, Moses, and Noah.

John Brown




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